Trash & Treasures

In which we wish Whitney was actually a character who hadn't mostly existed offscreen up to now, so that we could actually sympathize with him, and even Michael Rosenbaum can't save this batch of scripts. Dorothy seemed ominously thrilled about the next batch, though... CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of brainwashing, sexual assault, suicide, rape culture, parental abuse, domestic abuse, queerphobia, and ableism 1:30 Micro-Summaries 3:30 Monsters of the Week 23:00 Heart of the Show 30:00 And That’s Terrible 33:30 Knock-Off Brand 36:00 The Jukebox Say hi to the team on Twitter: @writervrai, @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

In which our Very Special Guest Lynette brings us an ABC TV movie of the week from the halcyon year 1974. If you've seen lauded modern masterpiece The Boy, you may also be familiar with this movie's plot. We're pretty sure Palahniuk watched it, because it would explain many things about Fight Club. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, police VC Andrews Blog-o-rama: http://vcablogorama.blogspot.com/ 5th Dollanganger on Twitter: https://twitter.com/5thdollanganger 1:00 ABC Movie of the Week 8:00 Beloved Smother 17:00 Guest Room, Not an Attic 20:00 Haunted Real Estate Shopping 25:00 The Boy: The Premake 40:00 Yike: The Source Material Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

We really had a great time watching this movie. It also, as you might expect from a film inspired by The Craft and written/directed by a cishet dude, has a lot to unpack. Let's dig into those good intentions, great moments, and bits of unintentional thematic whoops. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of sexual assault, abusive relationships, racism, misogyny, and transphobia. The Okra Project: www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 1:00 Limits of a Cis Writer 8:00 The Craft, You Say 10:30 The First Night in LA 14:00 Duke as Lestat (and also Nancy) 21:00 But What About Men? 26:00 Theme Detectives 31:00 We Swear We Liked It Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

This week brings us the film debut of Madeline Olnek, who longtime listeners might've heard us praising before for WILD NIGHTS WITH EMILY. While this is definitely a 90s time capsule even if it was filmed in 2011, it's also adorable to the nth degree. Not to mention how lovely it is to see a fat woman cast as the romantic lead. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of queerphobia, transphobia, misogyny The Okra Project: www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 That BS Passive-Aggressive NYT Obituary of Activist Larry Kramer: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/us/larry-kramer-dead.html Interview with Holly Hughes: https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=ITOF&u=philly_free&id=GALE%7CA446292521&v=2.1&it=r&sid=ITOF&asid=a10b4001 Memories of the Revolution: The First Ten Years of the WOW Cafe Theater: https://books.google.com/books/about/Memories_of_the_Revolution.html?id=gyYXCwAAQBAJ 1:00 Lesbian Activist Theatre: The WOW Café 6:00 Stage to Screen Growing Pains 11:00 The Cheesecake Symbolizes De

We all know the set-up: a gay couple goes through an elaborate comedy of errors to hide their Big Secret from their parents, who've come to visit out of the blue. But in this case, the secret isn't that Stephen and Danny are in love...it's that they're hitmen for the mob, and they've been telling Stephen's parents they were caterers. Tough to google and impossible to stream (but fortunately pretty cheap on DVD), this one is a true gem of queer cinema that has been almost completely forgotten. CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of racism, homophobia, transphobia, police brutality The Okra Project: www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 2:00 One-Hit Wonders 6:00 The Issue of Access 10:00 Gay Mafia Shenanigans 16:00 The Tyranny of Gender Roles 21:00 A Dinner Party Militia 36:00 The Ghost of Gay Ads Say hi to the team on twitter: @dorothynotgale, @writervrai, @wannabefood Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures J

This year's Pride theme was decided by vote, and y'all called for queer genre films--we're happy to provide. But tradition demands that we start with the oldest and stodgiest conventions to know our roots, and so we bring you a classic tale of a Repressed Murder Gay, written by highly regarded thriller writer (and lesbian) Patricia Highsmith. You're probably more familiar with the other movies based on her work (CAROL and STRANGERS ON A TRAIN), but Ripley is a pretty damn important figure in genre history. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of suicide, gaslighting, racism, hate crimes, homophobia, classism, and Gwyneth Paltrow's bullshit The Okra Project: https://www.theokraproject.com/ LGBTQ Freedom Fund: https://www.lgbtqfund.org/donate-1 Phyllis Nagy: “Being gay is Tom Ripley’s kryptonite” (TIFF Interview): https://www.tiff.net/the-review/phyllis-nagy-on-ripley 2:00 Pride Month 5:00 Patricia Highsmith’s Novels 11:30 Speakin of Carol 13:30 The Con is On 18:00 A Crime of Taste 22:00 Single White Male (feat

We swear we decided to read the book about a bunch of asshole writers trapped in a building while the world outside possibly dies of a pandemic all the way back in January. Still, if that subject -- as well as the laundry list of content warnings we've had to do up for Chuck "the Fight Club guy" Palahniuk-- isn't something you're up for right now, that's 110% understandable. We'll catch you on the next one. For everyone who wants a bit of a horrified scream-laugh though...we've got you covered. CONTENT WARNINGS: Discussion of sexual assault, child sexual abuse, racism, misogyny, mutilation, incest, transphobia, ableism, hate crimes, bestiality, animal death, depression, plague/disease imagery, suicide, cannibalism, gore, and bodily decay 1:00 Content Warnings 6:00 Liquor 8:00 Palahniuk and His Bullshit 16:00 The Masque of Red Death, Writers’ Retreat Edition 23:30 The Pool Drain Story 27:00 Misogyny Interlude I 37:00 Fuck the Innocent 42:00 Transphobic Violence I 47:00 The Nightmare Box 50:30 10/10 53:30 T

As is becoming tradition for this show, one actually pretty good episode is balanced out by a load of crap, and an accomplished horror star is doing The Most. Thanks for your service, Mr. Candyman, sir. Smallville would like to remind you that ACAB, until the next time that such a sentiment no longer directly affects Clark and is therefore inconvenient. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, sexual assault, stalking, police corruption/brutality, and misogyny 3:00 Bite-Sized 8:00 Monster of the Week 23:00 Heart of the Show 30:00 Wisdom from Pa Kent 40:00 And That’s Terrible 49:00 The Boombox 50:00 Deepest Lore Say hi to the team on Twitter @writervrai, @dorothynotgale, @wannabefood Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

After lo these many months, we've finally returned to the well of Anne Rice novels--sorry, "Anne Rampling." Exit to Eden is part of Rice's weird walkabout with literary and erotic novels before her return to vampires, and it wins the coveted "probably less actively dangerous as a damagingly inaccurate text about BDSM than 50 Shades of Grey" award almost solely because it's much harder to emulate. It is definitely a novel about how kinksters just need that healing monogamy, though. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, chattel slavery, sexual assault, physical abuse, pedophilia, grooming, bodily fluids (piss kink), transphobia, misogyny, war crimes, and intimate partner abuse "What Fandom Racism Looks Like: (Not-So) Sexy Slavefic": https://stitchmediamix.com/2018/07/12/what-fandom-racism-looks-like-not-so-sexy-slavefic/ 1:00 Publisher Corner 3:00 Drink Recipe 6:15 Content Warnings 8:30 WTF Quote Corner 22:00 BDSM Fantasy Island (But Make it Shitty) 29:00 Divide Lestat in Half and Get Two Narrators 34:0

The internet's only Smallville-cast returns with a decided downgrade in the episode offerings, although Lex having a destiny so hardcore and dastardly that even a vision of it KILLS A WOMAN almost makes up for it. This time we have Shawn in tow to see if, maybe, we can suss out what tentative connections the series occasionally decides to have to the comics. Also introducing our new, very educational segment: wisdom from Pa Kent. The fucker. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of fatphobia, eating disorders, sexual assault, ableism, and Reaganomics 2:00 Getting up to speed 6:00 Monsters of the week 14:00 Knock-Off Brand 18:00 Wisdom from Pa Kent 20:00 Heart of the Show 26:00 And That’s Terrible 34:00 The Boombox 35:00 It’s Comics! 42:00 Mailbag Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating

Do you like YuGiOh? We hope so, because this reunion movie was pretty much exclusively made for people who already had Big Feels about the franchise. Even as three nerds who were all part of the phenomenon in the 2000s, we're still not entirely sure we got all of it. But Alexis was kind enough to power through the To Wong Foo episode with us last Pride Month and dammit, we owed her. Was it BAD? Listen, Yu-Gi-Oh transcends mere human concepts of goodness and badness. There are only card games. And cults. People forget the cults. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of imperialism, cultural appropriation, violence toward children, suicide, and torture Visit Alexis on Twitter @TransComics or on Patreon 1:00 Your Reputable Yu-Gi-Oh Dealer 12:00 Can Anyone Explain Yu-Gi-Oh 23:00 So Shadi had a Cult 29:00 There Were Series After Duel Monsters? 36:00 The Why of Kaiba 43:00 TALES. OF. FANDOM. Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus epi

We found it: the missing link between Interview with the Vampire and Twilight. On the one hand, we have a child vampire villain and musings about the power of human nature; on the other, a Not Like Other Girls heroine who's into the new bad boy in town (but not like, TOO bad). It's a fascinating historical document. As a novel....well, the ending's unexpected. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of (beatified) suicide, terminal illness, animal death, child sexual abuse, sexual assault, eating disorders, misogyny, and class warfare 1:00 Drinks 2:00 The Missing Link 9:00 Klause's Writing Process 12:00 Our Cast 19:00 Bad News Your Hero Sucks 32:00 Co-opting Punkness 41:00 Revenge of the Backstory 52:00 Please Stop Writing Follow-Ups Decades Later Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and

Not to be contained by the first of April, Go Crows returns! We're making a proper go of it, but the title stuck. Apologies to all the other theoretical podcasts about Smallville that might have come before us. Our three-episode spread this time leads us on a merry chase through The Fly, an episode that's just about Good, Actually; and an evil lesbian to serve as immediate punishment for enjoying ourselves. As always, Lex is our special boy. Because somehow this show fucked up so hard that the billionaire business owner is the most sympathetic character. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, homophobia, incest, bullying, stalking, and abuse. 1:00 Last Time, on Smallville 6:00 Monsters of the Week 25:00 The Heart of the Show 30:00 And That's Terrible 37:30 The Boombox 44:00 Serial Numbers Filed Off 48:00 Final Thoughts Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our intro is "Slow Burn" by Kevin McLeod. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/tra

This documentary was delivered right to our doorstep with a stamp that said "your brand": the tale of a late-night comedy writer and how he stumbled into the enormous and yet nearly lost world of the industrial musical, multi-million dollar shows put on for corporations and never meant to be seen by society at large. Which is a crime, because "My Bathroom" is a work of aural genius. "Design for Dreaming" MST3K short: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v91GELINmKo 1:00 Documentary Dive 7:00 The Industrial Musical 11:00 The Hunt for Records 17:00 Big Names in the Game 20:00 Bursting Your (Economic) Bubble 24:00 Living the Small Fandom Dream 32:00 Preservation Across Mediums 38:00 On Brand 43:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people

In which a longtime Phantom fan and someone who doesn't even go here read a published fanfic that hits all the notes of being BAD fanfic, including: a sequel that the original didn't need, killing off characters for no reason, magically adding babies that make no sense, and turning the canon love interest into an asshole because they're in the way of your preferred ship. And then there are the GENERAL bad book problems, like bad pacing and a complete disdain for women. Anyway, then it got made into a multi-million dollar musical. Because Andrew Lloyd Webber gets away with that kind of shit. Oh, and Forsyth is a pro-Brexit shitstain going back over a decade so y'know, fuck him in general outside of the bad book. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, child sexual exploitation, gaslighting, ableism, misogyny, racism, and antisemitism Feminist Analysis of Christine: https://ninjagiry.tumblr.com/post/119216381093/christine-daae-an-actual-feminist-critique-by “Man’s Hatred Has Made Me So”: Freakifica

"Wait, wasn't this week supposed to be Good Manners?" Weeeeeeell, we ran into a little trouble. Mostly in that Good Manners isn't about LADY werewolves. Instead, we decided to take a look at Blood & Chocolate, a movie based on a popular proto-YA novel in that it shares some character names. It might not be a GOOD movie, but it managed to surprise us with its rejection of toxic masculinity in a genre known for dickweed alpha males. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of stalking, sexual assault, animal death, racism and incest/pedophilia. Good Manners Article: https://www.themantle.com/arts-and-culture/horror-motherhood-and-brazilian-manners-boas-maneiras 0:30 About Good Manners... 4:00 The Source Book 7:30 Creepy Incest Uncle 15:00 This Nice Art Boy 20:00 Pack Drama 34:00 Checking in on Bookland 41:00 Wish Fulfillment vs. Toxic Masculinity 48:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Pa

Entry two in our exploration of the werewolf genre is a big ol' puberty metaphor and a fantastic celebration of being weird, goth, and just a little bit pretentious as a teenager. Not to mention the great acting. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, queerphobia, animal death, and mass shootings 1:00 Production Info 7:00 The Role of Women in Horror 10:00 Here's to Weird Girls 18:30 Werewolf Puberty 20:30 Columbine's Effects 24:00 The Horror of Bodies 30:00 Men as Predators and Victims 39:00 Oops, It Escalated 49:00 Lost and Buried Threads 54:00 The Longest Final Battle 58:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet. Get bonus episodes on our Patreon: patreon.com/trashandtreasures Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and review, so that more people can find their way to us, we’d appreciate it!

It's that time of year again, where we put our spookiest foot forward and our horror history hats on. And since we're a podcast full of vampire fans, we thought we'd step out of our comfort zone and try out some of those werewolves we've heard so much about. This week we're joined by media critic Jourdain Searles to shine a light on the horror classic that was unfortunately overshadowed by An American Werewolf in London when it came out and makes stellar use of the werewolf as a metaphor for grappling with trauma. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, misogyny, violence toward women and body horror Jourdain's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jourdayen Bad Romance Podcast: http://badromance.libsyn.com/ 1:00 Werewolves and Movies 11:00 The Plot 18:00 Werewolves and Sexuality 32:00 Ripped from the Headlines 38:00 The Dearth of Queer and Female Werewolves 47:00 Should You Watch This Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Our icon was designed by Allison Shabet: deadw

It's our third anniversary! We decided to celebrate by talking about Hannibal Lecter's (excuse us, "Lecktor") first appearance on film. And if that gives us lots of opportunities to also talk about a certain Bryan Fuller...well, that's just a lucky coincidence, isn't it? But seriously, Manhunter is pretty great, and responsible for the aesthetic of forensic dramas as we know them today. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of misogyny, sexualized violence/stalking, homophobia, and animal death Cleolinda's Hannibal Recaps: https://cleolinda.dreamwidth.org/1006235.html We've also launched a Patreon at www.patreon.com/trashandtreasures! It'll help us pay for things like sourcing rare media and paying hosting costs -- but don't worry, whether or not you donate we're grateful to you all for listening. 0:30 The Legacy of Hannibal 12:30 The Big Crew Names 22:30 Sad Profiler Man's One Last Job 27:30 Noonan's Dollarhyde 31:00 Freddy v Freddie 36:00 WIlgram 39:30 Hannibal: Walking Intrusive Thought 47:00 Deviant Sexua

Every bad book club eventually succumbs to the allure of Crichton, so we picked ourselves a doozy: a seafaring adventure about how everything would be better if all those minorities would just calm down and let a rational straight white man make all the decisions. Anyway, Dorothy insists this is the least eye-melting title she could've chosen. But we did remember to recommend some nicer, better things at the end this time. CONTENT WARNING for discussion of racism, misogyny, victim-blaming, fat-shaming, and homophobia. 1:00 The Crichton Oeuvre 7:45 Drink Menu 9:00 The Deceptively Fun Hook 15:00 Assembling the Crew 24:00 Spooky Shit at the Bottom of the Sea 33:00 And the Real Boogeyman was Identity Politics 38:00 When Even English Majors Know Your Technobabble is Bad 45:00 One Last Narrative Middle Finger 50:00 Crichton Fuckery Round-Up Say hi to Dorothy and Vrai on Twitter @writervrai and @dorothynotgale Join us every two weeks on Soundcloud, iTunes or Stitcher – and if you’d leave a rating and revie