Better On Draft | A Craft Beer Podcast

Wendy and Rob talk to Courtney and Derek Guggenberger of Guggman Haus Brewing, a well-regarded and decorated brewery just outside downtown Indianapolis. Starting as a small brewery in 2019 and growing to a slightly larger brewery recently, hear about their brewing philosophy and their unique and interesting brewhouse. In 2025 Better on Draft will be recording on the second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30 Eastern. You can watch us live to share your questions, opinions, and drinks on Facebook, Twitch, and Youtube.Guggman Haus Brewing: https://www.guggmanhausbrewing.com/

Wendy and Rob talk to Anni of Naptown Trivia about what it's like to create and run a successful trivia business and how instrumental it can be for newer breweries as they grow their regular clientele. If you're unfamiliar with pub trivia maybe this episode can help you understand the appeal. If you're familiar with pub trivia then you're going to hear all the tropes and secrets behind running trivia and dealing with "those" teams (you know the ones).In 2025 Better on Draft will be recording on the second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30 Eastern. You can watch us live to share your questions, opinions, and drinks on Facebook, Twitch, and Youtube.

Wendy and Rob catch up on recent doings, discuss drinking the alphabet, and the odd occurrence of having things thrown at you unexpectedly.Articles in the show: - Greg Hall and Virtue Cider: https://chicago.eater.com/2024/11/27/24306883/virtue-cider-greg-hall-renovations-fennville-michigan-inbev-independent-sale - Beer Choir: https://www.kimt.com/news/beer-choir-makes-its-north-iowa-debut-on-monday/article_38fbc1da-ead0-11ef-b737-6748bdf6a7ee.html - Hulk Hogan Beer: https://www.newsweek.com/sports/wrestling/wwe-news-hulk-hogan-real-american-beer-being-sued-negligence-2030974 - Peas in Beer: https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/02/pea-sugars-can-speed-up-sour-beer-brewing/ - VinePair's article on consolidation: https://vinepair.com/articles/craft-brewing-consolidation/ In 2025 Better on Draft will be recording on the second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30 Eastern. You can watch us live to share your questions, opinions, and drinks on Facebook, Twitch, and Youtube.

Rob and Wendy talk to Mark Lasbury of Indiana On Tap about the Tasting Society Marketplace, working with breweries, On Tap tickets and festivals, and beer around Indiana and Michigan and beyond!In 2025 Better on Draft will be recording on the second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30 Eastern. You can watch us live to share your questions, opinions, and drinks on Facebook, Twitch, and Youtube.Mark runs and writes for Indiana On Tap: https://indianaontap.com/

Running Ken-less, Rob and Wendy will talk to Joel Geier of Brewery Travels about his new book, Flights Across America: A Brewery Lover’s Journey. Hear about his travels and experiences in breweries across the country!In 2025 Better on Draft will be recording on the second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30 Eastern. You can watch us live to share your questions, opinions, and drinks on Facebook, Twitch, and Youtube.Flights Across America is available at many locations and Amazon is one of them: https://www.amazon.com/Flights-Across-America-Brewery-Journey/dp/B0DN3RH9KJJoel can be found on many platforms as Brewery Travels. His Bluesky profile is https://bsky.app/profile/brewerytravels.bsky.socialSponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state

For Ken's last podcast as a regular host he invited Eric Briggeman of Rochester Mills Brewing, the first guest on Better on Draft ever. Join us for a bit of nostalgia and catch up on Rochester Mills and Eric's (and Amanda's) current activities.In 2025 Better on Draft will start recording on the second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30 Eastern. You can watch us live to share your questions, opinions, and drinks on Facebook, Twitch, and Youtube.Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co – https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord – https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map – http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft – https://plnk.to/BODSpotify – https://open.spot

The Better on Draft team checks in with long-time friend of the show Kevin DeGrood. You may know him from North Central Brewing or from his presence within the Michigan craft beer scene or maybe you are meeting him for the firt time (like Rob). We'll hear about the hardships of running a brewery, even a successful one, and what Kevin sees in the industry and market.This is Ken's penultimate episode and he will be missed greatly. Better on Draft will continue in 2025 with live recordings every second and fourth Friday of the month at 8:30pm ET on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook.Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co – https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord – https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownlo

At most craft beer festivals you're guaranteed two things.  Amazing Michigan Beer, and seeing Chuck Marshall and his wife Brenda running around the festival grounds snapping amazing photographs and promoting the event.  Since we knew they'd be attending 4 Elf we took the time to sit down with them for an hour to go over their website and cover of craft beer and music in Michigan, as well as get to know them a bit more personally and how they get around the state finding these neat little things to do!  Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, X, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co – https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord – h

4 Elf Day 2024 was on December 14th this year and we headed out to Marshall Michigan to see what is going on in the world of ROAK and Dark Horse.  The first half of the episode brings out Chuck Mascari Jr, managing partner of ROAK/Dark Horse to talk about the industry, the changes, and how they've been weaving in the murky waters of the current landscape of craft beer.  It just so happens, big fan of Dark Horse Rob Sims (former Detroit Lion and co-founder of Primitiv) talk about the comparison of the Cannibas and beer industry, and what each industry can learn from each other as consumer choices continue to change each year.  Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, X, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Ken, Wendy, and Rob chase the beer truck to get some BCBS, discuss alcoholic advent calendars, and lots of beery things.Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook! We'll also be live at 4 Elf Party Dec 14th at Dark Horse Brewery in Marshall, MI.Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co - https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord - https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map - http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft - https://plnk.to/BODSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6AlzP1BH0iykayF856bGRc?si=xXZzdd3CTPqgUq_KYTnBKgiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/better-on-draft-a-craft-be

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Wendy and Rob discuss some things they learned while preparing for a non-alcoholic brewery interview that will hopefully be rescheduled. They also discuss beer! in! space! and the Craft Beer Hall of Fame, certifications, removing alcohol from beer, poor decisions on a bicycle, and spiderman's alcohol-free beer.Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co - https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord - https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map - http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft - https://plnk.to/BODSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6AlzP1BH0iy

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Join Ken, Wendy, and Rob in a conversation with Brian from Stormcloud Brewing out of Frankfort (not Frankenmuth). Brian sells us all on the trek up to Traverse City to hang out at a cool brewpub (or a taproom if the brewpub is busy). A Belgian-inspired brewery doing easy-drinking traditional styles in a fun and interesting environment. You should see them in the winter!Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!MICHIGAN SERIES: Having brought in guests from all over the country this past two years, we wanted to still be true to our roots, so we have began the Michigan Series. A series of Michigan Brewery owners, employees, brewers, and sales reps, talking about what is happening here in the state and what is happening at their facilities.Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Join Ken, Wendy, and Rob in a conversation with Nick from HOMES out of Ann Arbor. Nick talks about how he came to be the head brewer doing interesting and exciting beverages, how he works within the industry, and working within the Michigan and farther beer community.Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!MICHIGAN SERIES: Having brought in guests from all over the country this past two years, we wanted to still be true to our roots, so we have began the Michigan Series. A series of Michigan Brewery owners, employees, brewers, and sales reps, talking about what is happening here in the state and what is happening at their facilities.Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craftapped.com

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Recorded live at Nick the Brewer's place, Nick and Ian (formerly of Cellarmen's) joins us to talk about their long history in the industry, what has changed since we've had them on last, and what the future holds for craft beer, its fandom, and its future.  Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, X, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co – https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord – https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map – http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft – https://plnk.to/BODSpotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/6AlzP1BH0iykayF856bGRc?si=xXZzdd3CTPqgUq_KYTnBKgiTun

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Recorded live at Nick the Brewer's place, Nick and Ian (formerly of Cellarmen's) joins us to talk about their long history in the industry, what has changed since we've had them on last, and what the future holds for craft beer, its fandom, and its future.  Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, X, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co – https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord – https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map – http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft – https://plnk.to/BODSpotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/6AlzP1BH0iykayF856bGRc?si=xXZzdd3CTPqgUq_KYTnBKgiTun

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Recorded live at Nick the Brewer's place, Nick and Ian (formerly of Cellarmen's) joins us to talk about their long history in the industry, what has changed since we've had them on last, and what the future holds for craft beer, its fandom, and its future.  Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, X, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit – The Detroit Brew Trail – https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor – https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) – https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co – https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord – https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map – http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft – https://plnk.to/BODSpotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/6AlzP1BH0iykayF856bGRc?si=xXZzdd3CTPqgUq_KYTnBKgiTun

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Join Ken, Wendy, and Rob in a conversation with David and Andy of Blackrocks Brewery. From homebrewing into the commercial space hear about how they balance business, pleasure, and community in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!MICHIGAN SERIES: Having brought in guests from all over the country this past two years, we wanted to still be true to our roots, so we have began the Michigan Series. A series of Michigan Brewery owners, employees, brewers, and sales reps, talking about what is happening here in the state and what is happening at their facilities.Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer C

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Wendy says goodbye to an old brewery friend then Rob and Wendy discuss some recent beery adventures!Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co - https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord - https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map - http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft - https://plnk.to/BODSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6AlzP1BH0iykayF856bGRc?si=xXZzdd3CTPqgUq_KYTnBKgiTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/better-on-draft-a-craft-beer-podcast/id1091124740Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/betterondraftUntappd - https://www.untappd.com/u

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Join Ken, Wendy, and Rob in a conversation with Jason and Kris Spalding of Brewery Vivant, Vivant Spirits, and Broad Leaf Brewing. Hear about the past, present, and future of this well-known Michigan brewery and how Broad Leaf and distilling came to be part of their business. Join us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!MICHIGAN SERIES: Having brought in guests from all over the country this past two years, we wanted to still be true to our roots, so we have began the Michigan Series. A series of Michigan Brewery owners, employees, brewers, and sales reps, talking about what is happening here in the state and what is happening at their facilities.Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craft

CRAFT BEER PODCAST INFO:Join Ken, Wendy, and Rob as Ken attempts to talk about Horror movies and video games, we discuss warm beer in warm places, and we talk about some beer news:What chefs drink after work: https://www.foodandwine.com/best-cheap-beer-chef-recommended-8699384 10 Barrel layoffs: https://newschoolbeer.com/home/2024/9/tilray-lays-off-10-barrel-brewings-entire-innovation-brewing-teamJoin us live at our new start time, 8:30pm ET, every other Friday! Live on Twitch, Kick, and Facebook!Sponsors:Visit Detroit - The Detroit Brew Trail - https://visitdetroit.com/food-drink/breweries-wineries-distilleries/detroit-brew-trail/Zetouna Liquor - https://www.facebook.com/Zetouna-Liquor-Fine-Wine-Cigars-146021445420374/Craftapped (Code BOD for 15% Off At Checkout) - https://craftapped.com/join-page-by-state/Rochester Mills Beer Co - https://www.beercos.com/Join The Michigan Beer Discord - https://discord.gg/vEEDyzwdjTDownload the MI Beer Map - http://www.mibeermap.comSubscribe to Better on Draft - https://pln