Roses And Thorns

Ok, how is our recap of this episode longer than our finale recap?   Transcription: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qP-YCSv27nDOptWzXGSYzXb7OZ47W1eWBZNxhWxyZnc/edit?usp=sharing 

It's finally the finale! After weeks of torture and nonsense, we've reached the finish line (sort of).   Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hRlznOjPEycvZOS5lEq_4mlhQAZ4LXKA-tHVGYQivi8/edit?usp=sharing 

It's Fantasy Suites, which means there's only one week left! We've almost made it!   Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gdCs2cdt24zQg2Kqs6pwLTgEHJPfogaNLxZBJyGZLks/edit?usp=sharing

Honestly, I didn't hate this Tell All. There was very little yelling or arguing and also very little Chris Harrison.    Episode transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NLDEWMf48CVMi2UQgIRo5m35_IyK7nn7j-AXVktXbd8/edit?usp=sharing 

Would you believe it if I told you that it's hometowns week already??   Audio Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12TWSIIPL081-yeYafh4E9T1RT6py9ls0zDSorJIFt2g/edit?usp=sharing

It's the week before hometowns, and no one is playing around. Over the course of this episode, we go from 11 women to just 4, and there were some eliminations that we really did not see coming.

There's a lot of calls for accountability in Bachelor Nation right now, from Chris Harrison, to Rachael Kirkconnell, to previous cast on the Bachelor. If you're not sure what it's all about, have a listen! We try to break it down to explain the what and the why.   If you would like to have a conversation about anything we discuss in this episode, please reach out to us! @rosesnthornspod

With very little news to discuss, we get pretty quickly to business. We have a fairly in-depth discussion about what we saw with Serena C and Katie, as well as the conversations that others are having about this drama. Is Serena C a mean girl? A bully? Or just someone venting?   Reminder: We're flawed human beings, and we're always open to other perspectives! If you feel that we've said something problematic, we would love to have a conversation with you about it! Please reach out to us on Twitter or Insagram @rosesnthornspod

These recap episodes just keep getting longer and longer... Sorry?

The house is basically just a bunch of mean girls now. Everyone sucks, and everyone's upset. Except Michelle. She's perfect, and all we want is for her to live happily ever after with Matt. Heads up, this is a long episode. If you want to skip the news section, jump ahead to about 40 minutes.

Kelly gets progressively more annoyed with Sarah throughout the recording of this episode (whether fair or not, idk). But really, no one's the hero, no one's the villain. 

Look. I don't know what was going on with our brains tonight, but we were *struggling* with words and sentences. I'm gonna guess some mix of pandemic + insurrection has fogged up our minds, but hey, we made it through... It just took 2 hours to do so. Anyway, now that we've talked this episode up, listen in!

Welcome to Matt James' season, y'all! We talk about our new lead, the few intros we get for the women, all of the limo arrivals, the vibrator, the controversial prayer, Matt's one-on-one time with the ladies, drama brewing, and our best attempt to discuss disabilities as two able-bodied people. (Feel free to message us and let us know what we could have said differently!)

The new season of The Bachelor starts on Monday, January 4, and we've got a run-down of the 32 ladies we'll see on night one! We've got not only the general demographics of the women, but their likes and dislikes, and our feeble attempts at describing their appearances. Listen in!

We've finally caught up on the finale of The Bachelorette! I'm not sure what else you need in this description. This seems pretty self-explanatory, so I feel like you can stop reading this and just listen to the episode, ok?

This is our "quiet" episode, which means we intended to stay quieter than usual but no way actually succeeded in doing so. Either way, fantasy suites happened! And we recap them! Enjoy!

In the history of the Bachelor/ette, has there ever been a better final four? Have there ever been more joyful and positive hometowns?

Finishing off last week's dates, Blake gets his one-on-one (and as far as we've seen, this might as well be his only interaction ever with Tayshia). Then it moves on the rose ceremony where, surprise, Bennett's back! (Am I the only one who forgot about him??) Then we get the Men Tell All, which should really just be titled "The Men Tell The Same Drama We Already Watched But With More Yelling."

So here's the thing, Kelly messes up Riley's name a bunch of times in this episode. I mean, clearly she knows his name is Riley, but all the other components got jumbled. She maybe gets it right in the end though? ...  Anyway, so aside from that, it's basically everything you expect the episode will be: Bennett and Noah, one-on-one with Ben, group date, and surprise Bennett. Enjoy!

Look, these guys are some grown ass men. We've got real conversations happening and true vulnerability. It's honestly incredible to see such real conversations happening on this show, and we can only hope that this is a new trend for the show. (But like, it's still The Bachelor franchise, so probably not...)