Not A Fan With Joe Faina

Kelsey Caine joins the podcast with her cohost (and lover) Martin Urbano hidden comfortably in the corner.  The 2017 finalist in the Miss New York pageant talks about growing up with a tennis pro father, using apathy as a competitive strategy in high school tennis matches, and the aggressively passive world of being pretty competitively.   Follow Kelsey: @Kelsey_Caine #PageantKelsey Follow Martin: @MartinUrbano Follow Joe: @faination