Off the Record with Jon and Tim

Jon and Tim are back with another edition of Off the Record.  Jon appeared on TV this morning promoting his non-profit foundation, and Tim talks about how good (or bad) of a job he did. Tim then asks if Jon was nervous being on TV when they are normally just on the radio.  Jon says that he wasn't afraid to do TV because he's in a studio and not in front of a bunch of people.   That starts a conversation on fear and what Jon and Tim fear most and how they handle that fear.  That leads into them talking about how you have to have fear in order to truly be successful in life. This is unscripted, real conversation. This is what happens off the air. This is Off the Record. (Also Jon threw together a new intro for the podcast. We may keep it, we may not.)