Everyday Driver Car Debate

The guys are asked what great cars ended production before they got good, and what cars were on sale and stuck around way too long? They take on debates for Monica + Nugget in TX, who want an executive sedan for relaxed trips. Then, Alice and Bill ask if they’re too old for a fun car? Social media questions ask what cars were one change away from greatness, does a manual transmission add to or detract from the driving experience, and what car sold in North America would be considered “forbidden fruit” in Europe? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:49 - Toyota GR GT Teased; Full Reveal Coming! 02:51 - Topic Tuesday: Gone Too Soon, Stayed Too Long 04:55 - Gone Too Soon 24:17 - Stayed Too Long 49:17 - Hooked On Driving + EDD Adventures 2026 51:23 - Car Debate #1: Fighting For The Backseat 1:09:44 - Car Debate #2: Are We Too Old For A Fun Car? 1:23:26

The guys attend the 2025 LA Auto Show, and discuss concepts and production car announcements from many manufacturers. They debate flashy cars for Nicholas, who is young and rich and wants something to brag about. Then, Rick obsesses too much over his next decision, but ultimately wants a fun car for his growing family. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:42 - Honda Prelude Price & First Impressions 07:28 - Porsche Cayenne EV Officially Announced 17:04 - Jeep Recon EV Revealed 23:30 - Genesis Magma Lineup 34:22 - Scout Terra & Traveler Up Close 41:16 - KIA Telluride In The Metal 42:14 - Nissan Suprises With Inexpensive Greatness 44:08 - Dodge Charger SixPack Is ENORMOUS 48:57 - Rivian R2 Is ‘Right-Sized’ 50:01 - Corvette ZR-1X: An Imposing, Aggressive Presence 50:57 - Mustang GTD Is A Throwdown 51:26 - Hyundai CRATER Concept Needs To Be Built

The guys stick their beaks into the business of Mark & Jack without trying to ruffle any feathers. The Savage Geese guys haven’t yet flown south for the winter, so they join the podcast to discuss their honkin-big triple-car comparison called ‘Crowning The King’ - the Mustang GTD, Corvette ZR-1, and Porsche 911 GT3 RS. The first debate is for Kyle M. in Detroit, who roasts the guys a bit and then asks what Michigan-proof truck can replace his Gladiator? Car debate #2 is for Gage D, who is also in MI. His current car needs a transmission replacement - should he fix it himself, or get something new for $10-15K? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:06 - Subaru BRZ Type RA “Record Attempt” 03:23 - Nissan Bringing Back The Skyline 04:40 - Jeep Recall: Self-Destructing Engines 09:41 - Savage Geese: Mark & Jack 1:14:15 - Hooked On Driving November & December

The guys attend SEMA 2025 in Las Vegas, and challenge themselves to imagine what their own ‘build’ would be like. They take on an “impossible debate” from Jeremy H., who grew up on muscle-car culture but loves modern, sharp-handling sports cars. Then, Patrick W. owns a Golf R, but wishes for something more engaging and pretty to look at. Social media questions ask what sort of design lines suggest a car will age poorly; and is it better to be coached on high-performance driving in a non-sports car on a racetrack, or experiment with a sporty car on a canyon road? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 02:00 - Ford F-150 Lightning EV Being Discontinued? 06:11 - Toyota Recalling Another 127K Vehicles With Turbo V6 09:19 - SEMA 2025: The Absurd 24:12 - SEMA 2025: Two Favorites 37:30 - Topic Tuesday: What Would Our “SEMA Builds” Be? 38:02 - Todd’s Build 48:

The guys are asked for their predictions on 5 future classics and 5 future duds, all sold within the last 5 years. For extra credit, even categorized in 5 countries! They debate fun choices for Jose B., who gets bored quickly and has owned multiple versions of the same sports car. Then, the Mercedes-Benz MBRACE app is being discontinued - what choices do owners have when car companies abandon technology that was a selling point? Did you see this? The newly-announced humanoid robot for homes, called NEO! Then, social media questions ask how do you tell a driver you’re uncomfortable with their driving habits, what future cars are OEMs scrambling to build, and why do companies choose such large wheels for their cars now? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:19 - Longbow Roadster & Speedster 06:58 - Topic Tuesday: 5 Future Classics, 5 Future Duds, All Unde

For Topic Tuesday, the guys are asked if money was no object, maintenance was unlimited and storage space available, how big would their car collection be? They naturally give themselves rules, and limit their garages to the perfect 12 cars. They take on a debate for Emily in PA, whose husband always takes care of their family. Then, throw out the spreadsheets! Mandy C. needs a replacement do-it-all fun cars, and writes in. Audience questions ask what path Porsche should take regarding the 911, and is GM making a big mistake by choosing to not offer CarPlay and Android Auto in the future? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:34 - Porsche Gets A New CEO 03:02 - Porsche t-hybrid Technology Broader Use 05:39 - Porsche Patents Triple Turbo W-18 Engine 08:00 - Porsche Blenders, Fridges & Toasters, Oh My! 12:24 - Toyota Announces New FJ Cruiser? 24:04 -

For Topic Tuesday, the guys create self-imposed rules for themselves, and choose fun cars for families at each price point up to $100K. They debate fun commute choices for Josh in MI, who wants something new and is having trouble letting go of his current car. Then, John in SD is mulling over a truck & trailer for towing the track car, but wonders if it’s the right choice. Social media questions ask about Subaru’s concepts that are an ongoing tease, and what’s the best metric to quantify the performance of a car if you haven’t driven it? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 02:27 - The Truckle 05:45 - Cadillac Discontinuing CT4 & CT5 V Blackwings 06:48 - Toyota Is Elevating Century Brand Above Lexus 11:05 - Average New Car Costs More Than $50K 18:48 - Topic Tuesday: Most Fun Family Cars At Each Price Point 21:44 - Todd’s List 32:30 - Paul’s List 45:08

In the AI age, nothing is immune, whether it’s cars or anything else. How far should AI be used in the design process, and does it stifle creativity or unlock new ideas? The guys discuss this and debate sports cars for Fred Z., who is selling a Marvel comic book collection to buy a special car. Then, nostalgia and emotions seem to be getting in the way of making a decision for Matthew R., who needs help sorting out his priorities. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:01 - Honda Prelude Pre-Sales Blowing Up! 05:07 - What’s Real Anymore? An AI Discussion For 2025 46:03 - Hooked On Driving Calendar Updates Oct / Nov 2025 50:02 - Car Debate #1: Converting Comic Collection To Cars 1:03:49 - Car Debate #2: Nostalgia Is Getting In The Way 1:18:17 - Car Conclusion #1: The 5-Year-Old New Car 1:23:11 - Car Conclusion #2: Always Buying Dead Cars Rate and review

What’s the most fun car at each price point? The guys start at $5K and work their way to the $100k price level, and each come up with their own list. For Mark & Tamara in TX, they debate fun cars that could theoretically be used for van life. Then, Art B. loves horsepower and speed, but feels like he’s committing a felony before upshifting to second gear. Car conclusions cover the choice of Porsche driving coach Konstantin, and then Garrett B., who realizes he wants something completely unexpected. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:41 - The Lexus LS Is Dead 02:42 - GM & Ford Find A Grey Area Together 06:28 - Z Car Outselling GR Supra? 09:30 - The Most Fun Car At Each Price Point 15:44 - Paul’s List 22:41 - Todd’s List 37:17 - Max Verstappen & Chris Lulham Win NLS9 47:53 - Car Debate #1: Van Life With Lightweight, Fun Cars 1:16:07 - Car Debate #2:

The guys continue the second half (N-Z) of their discussion about cars they think OEMs should bring back to the market. They debate fun commuters for Ian, who lives in Perth, Australia and has wildly varied distance needs. Then, Andrew Z. has a young family and needs kid-hauling space, but yearns for a Miata (which is on the horizon). The guys dive into social media questions, which include asking about rear diffusers on non-sporty models; and why doesn’t Ford build a 4dr Mustang branded as a Lincoln?  Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 02:12 - Tom Matano, Father Of The Miata, Has Passed 05:54 - Porsche “Product Strategy Realignment!” 08:36 - EV Battery Ejector Concept ???? 15:21 - Paul’s List Of Cars (N-Z) 35:13 - Todd’s List Of Cars (N-Z) 1:02:51 - Hooked On Driving October 2025 Events 1:04:00 - Car Debate #1: Don’t Drive It, You’ll Want One 1:16:

What cars should OEMs bring back to market? Is there a business case to be made? The guys explore one car from each manufacturer (A-M). They debate a fourth car for Sal in MN, who wants a sports car he doesn’t have to think about. Then, EJ and his family in CA are feeling the neighborhood peer pressure to buy a minivan, but they’d rather have something else with 3 rows. Social media questions ask if there were any cars on the ToTD trip in hindsight the guys wish they could have driven or done a film on, which cars have the best interiors for sitting in traffic, and what cars are the best versions of unrelated cars? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:17 - Model Y Recall For Door Handles 04:49 - Nissan Closing Design Studios In U.S. & Brazil 13:44 - Topic Tuesday: Cars That Brands Should Bring Back (A-M) 16:41 - Paul’s List Of Cars (A-M) 38:30 - Todd’

Are we enthusiasts too blinded by excellent older sports cars, and therefore unable to celebrate even the ‘middle-ground’ kinds of new cars? The guys acknowledge that fun is personal, and they unpack this topic that stems from negative internet reaction to the new Prelude. The first debate is for Konstantin M., who lives in LA and works as a driving coach for Porsche. Then, Alex D wants a ‘Goldilocks’ car to scratch the driving itch. What options is he missing? Social media questions ask why LED light bars have become a signature EV style, and what cars left the most impact on the guys’ early driving experiences? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:06 - 2026 Porsche 911 Turbo S t-hybrid announced 07:51 - 2026 Ferrari 849 Testarossa announced 18:23 - Stellantis Discontinues RAM EV Development 26:12 - Topic Tuesday: Enthusiasts Have Ruined It For Everyo

For the list of Top 5 GT Cars Under $50K, the guys need to first define what a GT car is, but the also wonder if GT cars are still prevalent from manufacturers. Do they still resonate with buyers? They discuss a debate for Matthew T, who has a sports-car-shaped hole in his life. Then, Peter M is apprehensive about what’s next since he likes but does not love his C8 Stingray convertible. Audience social media questions include cars that seem to magically part traffic, but which cars do other drivers refuse to pass? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:55 - 2026 Honda Prelude: All The Proper Frankenstein Parts 14:48 - Nissan NISMO Z Getting Manual Transmission! 16:53 - Audi Concept C - Exclusively EV 28:08 - Golf R Getting The 5-Cyl Engine 29:44 - Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid Press Loan 34:28 - Topic Tuesday: Top 5 GT Cars Under $50K 58:27 - Car Debate #1:

For the list of Top 5 Hot Hatches Under $40K, the guys both have choices of some of the greatest hits. They debate soul-killing cars for Derek G. and also Kate, both listeners who are in the northeast area. Car conclusions include advice to never ignore the Wildcard choice! And social media questions include a discussion of the least favorite car trends in the past 20 years. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:05 - Cadillac F1 Has Announced Their Drivers 05:22 - Mercedes-AMG GT XX Concept Endurance Records 11:13 - BYD YangWang U9 Sets Top Speed EV Record 20:05 - Top 5 Hot Hatchbacks 36:04 - Car Debate #1: Which Car Scares You Less? 50:16 - Car Debate #2: The Panic Purchase 1:07:34 - Car Conclusion #1: Bring The Whole Family 1:12:04 - Car Conclusion #2: Don’t Ignore The Wildcard 1:19:30 - Audience Questions On Social Media Rate and review us on App

For the Top 5 SUVs that are most fun under $50k, Paul picks brand new ones and Todd finds great used options. Which one resonates the most with listeners? They debate unique choices for Ian D., who wants two cars and craves something different. Then, Dan Z. in the NE needs a car to put the majority of miles on, and also park at the airport. Did you see this? Ben Tuna, aka The Glass Cowboy is making stained glass art installed in derelict cars. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:27 - Ford SuperVan 4.2 ‘Ring Record 06:15 - Mercedes Models Getting A BMW engine? 12:24 - Topic Tuesday: Top 5 SUVs - Most Fun Under $50K 36:29 - Car Debate #1: Craving Something Unique 52:55 - Car Debate #2: The Majority Of Miles 1:07:24 - Car Conclusion #1: It’s All Todd’s Fault 1:15:23 - Car Conclusion #2: Growing The Fleet 1:21:34 - Did You See This? The Glass Cowboy 1:

In honor of Monterey Car Week 2025, the guys aim their Top 5 list at hypercars and discuss which ones they would buy if they had the money! They debate sensible cars for new college grad Akash in GA, and try to help Mark in Houston figure out what to buy right now. Social media questions cover unexpected tire noise in sports cars, why don’t the guys recommend WRXs anymore, and why aren’t CVTs used in race cars? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 06:12 - Testing Induction Charging Embedded In Roads 09:06 - 2025 Monterey Week Car Announcements 31:07 - Topic Tuesday: Top 5 Hypercars 1:06:00 - Car Debate #1 - Connecting Reality To Fantasy 1:22:20 - Car Debate #2 - Sooner Rather Than Later 1:40:07 - Audience Questions On Social Media Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, and subscribe to our two YouTube channels. Write to us your Topic Tuesdays, Car Conclus

The guys start a new ‘recommendation’ series about the top cars, trucks and SUVs they would buy. This episode begins with sports cars, and they each name and discuss the reasons for their top 5. They also debate first sports cars for Michael in LA, who has finally decided it’s time. Then, Nerval W. has an aging fleet and a decent budget—what stays and what goes? For Car Conclusions, Jordan L. writes about his Bahrain saga, and Tomas B. wishes the CTS-V wagon were available in the UK for his growing family. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 01:08 - Mercedes Onslaught Of New Cars 03:49 - Cybertruck Dumpster Target Practice 08:29 - GM + Hyundai: Just A Handshake? Or Something Deeper? 12:06 - The ZR-1 & ZR-1X ‘Ring Records: Is There More Speed? 22:18 - What If Max & Lewis Left F1? 22:43 - Dodge Sells Engines: Coke Classic Is Back! 30:14 - Topic Tues

Apple CarPlay is great, but is Ultra a step too far to differentiate the in-cabin experience? The guys discuss the dichotomy of unreliability vs. cost. Does making a vehicle reliable just mean dumping more money into it, and have we confused the terms ‘unreliable’ and ‘expensive?’ Albert S. doesn’t admit to being a BMW enthusiast, despite owning four - he wants what’s next. Then, Jason W. doesn’t feel ready for a Porsche, but maybe when he’s older. Car conclusions include cheap new EVs and project cars, and social media questions include an inquiry on how to get better driving manual transmission? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 00:38 - Apple CarPlay Ultra Unliked? 10:44 - Dacora Motors, The Streamline Moderne EV 22:57 - Topic Tuesday: Does ’Unreliable’ mean ‘Expensive?’ 54:54 - Car Debate #1: Does Four BMWs Make You An Enthusiast? 1:12:53 - Car Debat

Car companies worldwide are grappling with tariffs, but they’re also facing the EV downturn and an immediate product pipeline that isn’t encouraging to car enthusiasts. Paul D. Is moving to Switzerland for a few years, and wonders what’s in his driving future. Then, Andy in Australia doesn’t care about the brand, he just wants something interesting for his next car. Listeners write their great deals in Car Conclusions, and on social media, if the guys were to eliminate one of the German brands, what would it be? Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 - Intro 55:18 - Stellantis Not Doing So Hot 08:47 - Porsche Business Model Not Working 16:24 - E-Fuels Still Being Developed? 20:28 - Lotus Lessons 47:51 - Car Debate 1: Fun Cars In Switzerland 1:09:03 - Car Debate 2: No Prejudice In Australia 1:15:52 - Car Conclusion 1: The More Things Change… 1:17:42 - Car Co

Cadillac is so hot right now; will their 2026 F1 debut continue the winning streak, and will their V-Series performance cars get even better in the future? The guys debate uncomfortable cars for Dustin S., who is seriously considering a Viper. Then, Michael & Olga have become their family’s Tesla Dumping Zone and they’re tired of it. Jay S. Recommends hitting your car with a hammer to cure preciousness, and Lauren in ID loves both her sports cars. Audio-only MP3 is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and 10 other platforms. Look for us on Tuesdays if you’d like to watch us debate, disagree and then go drive again! 00:00 Intro 00:22 2025 Goodwood FOS 01:05 2026 Hyundai Ioniq 6 N 08:20 More Corvette Rumors? 12:20 2026 Lexus LFR 14:51 Hagerty auction odometer averages 18:53 Topic Tuesday: The Cadillac Of Racing 32:26 Car Debate 1 - The Viper’s Sting 50:00 Car Debate 2 - The Family Tesla Dumping Ground 59:10 Car Conclusion 1 - Get Out The Hammers 1:09:37 Car Conclusion 2 - Two Sports Cars Are Bett