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HOME Podcast with Laura McKowen and Holly Whitaker takes up the big questions of life through the lens of addiction recovery. Each week, we explore a new discussion about our hearts, relationships, life, love and the universe at large.Intro and outro music by Radiation City.


  • Episode 119: Maia Szalavitz

    17/01/2018 Duration: 01h29min

    This week, the girls talk to Maia Szalavitz; a neuroscience journalist and author of the New York Times bestseller, Unbroken Brain: A Revolutionary New Way of Understanding Addiction. Maia specializes in covering the intersection between brain and behavior and how social factors like inequality get under the skin. She is the author or co-author of six other books and writes for major publications including the Guardian, TIME, the New York Times, Scientific American Mind, the Washington Post, VICE and Pacific Standard.

  • Episode 118: Favorite Thingstagram

    10/01/2018 Duration: 01h33min

    The episode where the girls talk about their favorite things right now (books, music, tech, news apps, self-care), but first, talk about the Enneagram and Instagram for an hour.

  • Episode 117: Happy-ish-Mostly New Year

    03/01/2018 Duration: 01h44min

    Happy New Year! If the best part about 2018 is that it means 2017 is over, that's enough. In this even-longer-than-usual episode, the girls check-in on their love, sobriety, work, and home lives and do a little hoping and wishing for 2018.

  • Episode 116: Jeff DeFlavio Returns

    20/12/2017 Duration: 01h09min

    In the last episode of 2017, Jeff DeFlavio returns to HOME. Jeff is the founder and CEO of Groups, a company that provides affordable, modernized treatment for opiate use. This episode is a mashup of talk about the opiate epidemic, politics, keeping focus and heart when the battle is so big, and some book reviews (wherein Jeff mistakes Hillbilly Elegy for Dreamland for most of the episode), and more.

  • Episode 115: The Hawkins Sisters

    13/12/2017 Duration: 01h24min

    Laura and Holly met the Hawkins sisters (Janet and Julie) at a workshop. When they began telling their story, Laura and Holly immediately asked them to come on the show. In this episode, the sisters beautifully and candidly share their family's story of drinking addiction, their individual and overlapping journeys to sobriety, and the complicated mix of feelings that they've each experienced along the way.

  • Episode 114: The Let Down Reflex

    06/12/2017 Duration: 01h11min

    In this episode, the girls respond to two letters. The first, from a new mom who's worried about how much she's been drinking in the first months of her baby's life while breastfeeding, and the second from a girl grieving the loss of two long friends that don't support her new sobriety. This episode is about the let downs: things we think we "should" be able to do, like choose people we love over alcohol, and the ways our relationships change despite us wishing they wouldn't.

  • Episode 113: Allison Micco & Anxiety

    29/11/2017 Duration: 01h21min

    This week the girls talk to Allison Micco about the "A" word: anxiety. Like so many people, Allison struggled with anxiety long before she knew what it was and at a certain point assumed it was a fault of hers or just something she'd have to learn to contend with forever. In college, she was prescribed a medication to cope with it that she later became addicted to and after years of searching and frustration, she finally got to the root of her anxiety, including its connection to alcohol. Allison shares her story and provides incredible insight into a condition that's so widely misunderstood and downplayed in society.

  • Episode 112: Kate Northrup

    22/11/2017 Duration: 01h11min

    This week, the girls talk to Kate Northrup. Kate is an entrepreneur, bestselling author, mother, and activist. She's the author of Money: A Love Story, is currently writing her second book, and her work has been featured everywhere from The Today Show to Glamour magazine. The girls talk about privilege, the personal responsibility of activism, the surprising wakeup of motherhood, and the power of seeing our energy, work, and bodies as cyclical. Kate is such a fresh, real, powerful voice and she shares herself so honestly in this episode. More about Kate and her work can be found at www.katenorthrup.com.

  • Episode 111: Conversation Starters

    14/11/2017 Duration: 01h17min

    It's the 111th episode of HOME, recorded on 11/11! In this ep, the girls mix it up and ask each other 11 random questions from Danielle LaPorte's "Conversation Starters" app. Some answers are full of light and love, and some not so much.

  • Episode 110: HoLo HEYYYYYYY

    08/11/2017 Duration: 01h16min

    In this ep, the girls catch up on their love lives, sobriety, home life and work, including a tricky discussion about serving alcohol at parties (or not), lessons that just keep repeating themselves and digging less chaos.

  • Episode 109: Good Shit

    01/11/2017 Duration: 01h12min

    In this episode, the girls riff on the very best stuff that has happened to them in sobriety. From quitting their jobs to paying bills to sober sex, this episode pulls us out of the darkness and into the "fuck yes" moments.

  • Episode 108: Megan Peters

    25/10/2017 Duration: 01h21min

    This week, the girls talk to Megan Peters (aka @crazybananas). They brought her on to talk about how she balances activism, motherhood, blogging, marriage, and sobriety (and all the other roles she seems to occupy) and while they get into a bit of that, the conversation took them elsewhere. Megan generously and candidly talks about how her marriage shifted when she got sober four and a half years ago: from the early days when she wasn't sure it would withstand the change, to today. It's a conversation about the tricky business of growing in relationships, change, the urgency of self-care in sobriety, and personal responsibility.

  • Episode 107: How To Begin

    11/10/2017 Duration: 01h10min

    In this episode, the girls give their top tips for getting started in sobriety. From meditation to sweating to talking to God, they talk about what worked for them and what they've seen work for others in the first days.

  • Episode 106: Touché

    04/10/2017 Duration: 01h45min

    In this episode, the girls revisit the Episode 16: "What We Know for Sure" (say it in the booming Oprah voice, for suuuuuuuuuuRRRRRRE!) and talk about what they know for sure these days.

  • Episode 105: Jordan Bach

    27/09/2017 Duration: 01h41min

    This week, the girls talk to Jordan Bach! You may know Jordan from his incredible videos and social media presence, where he masterfully cuts through the noise and addresses both universal, human themes, as well as the issues of our time. The girls ask him about this particular superpower of his, which leads to a conversation ranges from politics to dharma to Jesus. Jordan Bach is an American life coach and inspirational blogger recognized as one of the most influential teachers on the contemporary spiritual scene. His down-to-earth messages reach a whole new generation of people seeking wisdom and inner peace. Jordan co-hosted the television series Secret Guide to Fabulous, produced by Kelly Ripa, on which he served as the resident lifestyle and relationship expert. The Advocate Magazine ranked Jordan as one of the “40 Most Accomplished Leaders Under 40,” calling him “one of the few you should listen to among our modern-day cacophony of voices.” Jordan has been openly gay since the age of twelve, and throug

  • Episode 104: Holly and Laura Are Gross

    21/09/2017 Duration: 01h12min

    In this episode, the girls do a standard catch-up about love, work, home, and sobriety and respond to a listener's claim that they're gross.

  • Episode 103: AA-volution

    13/09/2017 Duration: 02h15min

    In this week's show, the girls take a long, in-depth and candid walk through the evolution of Laura's relationship with AA: her beliefs when she started, how it's evolved, and where she stands now at nearly three years sober.

  • Episode 102: Point A

    06/09/2017 Duration: 01h37min

    In this episode, the girls go back to the roots of the show and answer two letters from readers. The first is from a woman who's wondering how to begin the work of getting sober (and if it's as much work as she imagines), and the second is from someone asking if she has to lose everything to drinking before she learns.

  • Episode 101: Veronica Valli and AA

    30/08/2017 Duration: 02h01min

    This week, the girls talk to Veronica Valli, author, therapist and recovery coach. The interview was sparked by a comment Veronica left on Holly’s Facebook page in response to her article Why We Need to do Away with Ego-Deflation and Humility in Women’s Recovery and the girls talk about that comment and everything behind it, including Veronica’s history with AA, how she views feminism, humility and her recovery from co-dependence. More about Veronica can be found at www.veronicavalli.com and her books, Why You Drink and How to Stop: Journey to Freedom and Get Sober Get Free: Your Practical Guide, are available on Amazon, iTunes, Google Play, and Barnes & Noble.

  • Episode 100: 100

    23/08/2017 Duration: 01h50min

    It's the 100th episode of HOME! The girls catch up on what's happening in our country right now and talk about how HOME began two years ago plus their favorite moments and interviews.

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