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The year 2020 has been a year coloured by change. Changes in many ways have touched many people's lives. Paragons of Change is a series of interviews with people from boardgaming sphere whom I’ve noticed going through changes in recent times. We talk about change and what they have changed in their lives. By default we do not claim we state facts, we only talk from our own points of view and our opinions. As the discussion might take a negative note, we try finish with a positive – by giving you a Top9 list of games. The topic of the list has been chosen by the guest and we will have a “battle of the lists” after the episode airs in my social media channels – you, dear listener, are encouraged to comment and vote on the lists to see which one of us did better. The fourth Paragon in the series is Ambie Valdés who makes parody songs, hosts a podcast, has an unnamed segment in a boardgame show named after a time for food and has an awesome 18XX guide in the YouTubes. We chat about change and her quitting her